Note that Krishna describes the avatar concept in this chapter.
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“When you realize it, you will never fall back into delusion; knowing it, you see all beings in yourself, and yourself in me.” [4:35]
Here Krishna relates to Arjuna the effects of reaching wisdom, the “final goal of every action”[4:33]. Krishna says that once you have accomplished this, you will never revert to your previous mind set. Once you've found wisdom, it will always be present with you. Through wisdom, you also can see and understand the beauty that God is in everyone, and everything, and because of this a part of all other beings is in you, and a part of you is in all other beings, including Krishna. Krishna describes wisdom as something beyond a knowledge, but also as a permanent redeeming factor that enables those who grasp it to higher capabilities of deeper insight.
4.11- "In any way that men love me, in that same way they find my love: for many are the paths of men, but they all in the end come to me."
I like this verse Krishna says because it reiterates the idea that there are many paths to God. Krishna say people can love him in “any way”, which I think is what allows Hinduism to be open minded and have the “buffet metaphor”. Krishna also states that through this love they will find Krishna’s love, which helps them become free of passions, fears, and angers and find true wisdom. I think this verse is supported by the parable of the nine blind men and the elephant. The parable states that the blind men touch an elephant but since they are touching the elephant at different places the men are going to describe what they feel differently. Even though the men do not feel the same thing, their individual descriptions are still true. In the same way of the parable, people are able to see different truths of Krishna and still know his love, which allows for many paths to the Supreme.
4.33 "Better than any ritual is the worship achieved through wisdom; wisdom is the final goal of every action, Arjuna."
In this passage Krishna is explaining to Arjuna what the real meaning of wisdom is and how important it really is. I feel that Krishna believes that is vital for Arjuna to retain wisdom to help him achieve his goals. He repeats himself, and repeats the word worship many times throughout this verse. I feel as though he repeats it so that Arjuna realizes how important it is. Krishna adds Arjuna’s name at the end of the verse to show Arjuna that he really needs to pay attention to this particular piece of information and that it is very important that he follow and use his wisdom in order to achieve what he needs to achieve.
ccd (whoever that is) has hit on a key revolutionary concept in the Gita: the sacrificial ritual is now internalized. Instead of a form in a ceremony, the way we live becomes the sacrifice.
"Released from greed, fear, anger, absorbed in me and made pure by the practice of wisdom, many have attained my own state of being" [4.10]
Krishna is teaching us that we must move away from human emotions and obejectives to get the wisdom required to find the pureness buried away within us. Once we have come to this hightened sense of knowledge, we are free from samsara and are able to be completely with Brahman once again. However, wisdom is just one way path to attainning the same state with Brahman or Vishnu.
4.35 " When you realize it you will never fall back into delusion; knowing it, you see all beings in yourself, and yourself in me." In this quote, Krishna is telling Arjuna that finding out who he is is one of the most important things he can do to be a devout follower. Like we talked about in class on Wednesday, the hindu religion believes that one is in a state of delusion or simply has forgotten that they are equal to God. In this quote, I felt like Krishna was telling Arjuna to find a teacher that will show him his true self and that he really is God and similar to himself. Also, I felt that Krishna was emphasizing that Arjuna was only confused and had just lost sight of who he was. Should he do as Krishna says, he will find that he sees a lot of Krishna in him.
Gita 4:24. "God is attained by all those who see God in every action."
This line is Krishna's way of telling Arjuna that the only way for one to truly attain the power and spiritual freedom of God is by realizing that God is all around him or her. People waste so much time going out looking and searching to find God when he is staring them in the face. God is everywhere, everything, everyday and has been forever and will always will be. Those people who are searching for God are never truly going to find him because they don't realize where he really is...everywhere! If you really want to find and see god, pause a moment and just feel his presence because he as all around you, everywhere.
"Many times I have been born, and many times you have also. All these lives I remember, you recall only this one". The blessed lord is saying that Arjuna simply does not realize he has lived before. He simply lives time and time again. His form is just one he has selected for the time being. He can not be mistaken for this one being, because he can not be described in one way. This is, or at least appears to be, the same concept we have discussed in class.
"Whoever knows, profoundly, my divine presence on earth is not reborn when he leaves the body, but comes to me." 4.9
when Krishna tells Arujna this, he is saying that whoever not only can see and feel the presence of God in his avatar form, but whoever can understand what it means to be connected to God at this close of a level, that person will no longer have to be reborn. instead that person gets the gift of spending eternity with God in heaven. this shows how God wants everyone to not only love him, but to also know him and understand him and be a part of him. God wants us to be a part of him so much that me makes us a part of his life too.
The Blessed Lord Said: Many times I have been born, and many times you have, also. All these times I remember. You recall only this one. In addition this is a rerminder that the lord even though in all of us is still above us. It seems as though it would be classified as a view of the Vishistaduaita Vedanta. (The idea that we are sort of with God but are clearly not God. I agree with the above post in saying that Arjuna does not realize he has lived before but is constantly reminded that he will continue to live forever just like God in him.
"Everything he does is worship and his actions melt away."
These lines are significant because they relate to the idea that by completely devoting yourself to God, you can attain freedom of the mind. If your actions are all in relation to God, you eliminate desire. Krishna explains that desire is where anger and ultimately failure come from. Therefore, by making everything worship, you can achieve stability and happiness, and after all, for many people, the purpose of religion is to find some stability.
Gita 4:23. "When a man has let go of attachments, when his mind is rooted in wisdom, everything he does is worship and his actions all melt away."
As we learn more and more, Krishna is teaching Arjuna that once you have reached wisdom your actions don't care anymore. He is saying that anything that is holding you back from being with God needs to be let go of. Then with all the obsticles out of the way and you are now devoted to God you have achieved your roots in wisdom, and everything that you do from then on is worship. Now that you have gotten to God you just need to start getting closer to him on a more personal level. This new wisdom then leaves everything behind and you forget about everything that you did before since you are now devoted to only thinking about worshiping to God.
4.11 "However men try to reach me. I reurn their love with my love; whatever path they may travel it leads to me in the end." In this passage Krishna explains to Arjuna that his religious role in the world is very important. People worship him in every possible way and anytime of their lives. They give him love and respect to reach their goal of connecting to god in any possible way. However he always replies them with love of his own. He explains that he treats all men as his children. Krishna also points out that no matter what path men may choose in their life they will always end up with him finally. So no matter what cast you might be in you will always find a path that will lead you to Krishna, because all paths lead right there no matter what.
Gita 4.8. "Whenever righteousness falters and chaos threatens to prevail, I take on a human body and manifest myself on earth." Krishna is saying that he comes to earth in the form o an avatar whenever the earth is going through a challenging time. He serves the earth as a protector; using his human form to reveal the good of the earth to the people in order to save the earth from turning into chaos. This passage demonstrates the loving side of Krishna. He loves his earthly people enough to come down to earth whenever they are facing troubles and save them from turning away from him. This reminds me a little of Jesus coming to earth to unveil the love of God to the people and the common belief that He will come again.
"Partaking of the essence of worship, forever they are freed of themselves; but non-worshipers cannot be happy in this world or any other." Gita 4:31
In the six lines beforehand, Krishna gives examples of how some men worship the gods; men offer wealth, knowledge, devotion or fasting. The point that Krishna concludes with in this sentence is that it doesn't matter how one worships the gods, as long as there is the element of worship. The non-worshipers however cannot be happy, "in this world or any other". What Krishna says about the many ways to worship alludes to the famous idea in Hinduism that there are a "million paths" to God or "me".
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“When you realize it, you will never
fall back into delusion;
knowing it, you see all beings
in yourself, and yourself in me.” [4:35]
Here Krishna relates to Arjuna the effects of reaching wisdom, the “final goal of every action”[4:33]. Krishna says that once you have accomplished this, you will never revert to your previous mind set. Once you've found wisdom, it will always be present with you. Through wisdom, you also can see and understand the beauty that God is in everyone, and everything, and because of this a part of all other beings is in you, and a part of you is in all other beings, including Krishna. Krishna describes wisdom as something beyond a knowledge, but also as a permanent redeeming factor that enables those who grasp it to higher capabilities of deeper insight.
4.11- "In any way that men love me, in that same way they find my love: for many are the paths of men, but they all in the end come to me."
I like this verse Krishna says because it reiterates the idea that there are many paths to God. Krishna say people can love him in “any way”, which I think is what allows Hinduism to be open minded and have the “buffet metaphor”. Krishna also states that through this love they will find Krishna’s love, which helps them become free of passions, fears, and angers and find true wisdom. I think this verse is supported by the parable of the nine blind men and the elephant. The parable states that the blind men touch an elephant but since they are touching the elephant at different places the men are going to describe what they feel differently. Even though the men do not feel the same thing, their individual descriptions are still true. In the same way of the parable, people are able to see different truths of Krishna and still know his love, which allows for many paths to the Supreme.
4.33 "Better than any ritual is the worship achieved through wisdom; wisdom is the final goal of every action, Arjuna."
In this passage Krishna is explaining to Arjuna what the real meaning of wisdom is and how important it really is. I feel that Krishna believes that is vital for Arjuna to retain wisdom to help him achieve his goals. He repeats himself, and repeats the word worship many times throughout this verse. I feel as though he repeats it so that Arjuna realizes how important it is. Krishna adds Arjuna’s name at the end of the verse to show Arjuna that he really needs to pay attention to this particular piece of information and that it is very important that he follow and use his wisdom in order to achieve what he needs to achieve.
ccd (whoever that is) has hit on a key revolutionary concept in the Gita: the sacrificial ritual is now internalized. Instead of a form in a ceremony, the way we live becomes the sacrifice.
"Released from greed, fear, anger, absorbed in me and made pure by the practice of wisdom, many have attained my own state of being"
[4.10]
Krishna is teaching us that we must move away from human emotions and obejectives to get the wisdom required to find the pureness buried away within us. Once we have come to this hightened sense of knowledge, we are free from samsara and are able to be completely with Brahman once again. However, wisdom is just one way path to attainning the same state with Brahman or Vishnu.
4.35 " When you realize it you will never fall back into delusion; knowing it, you see all beings in yourself, and yourself in me."
In this quote, Krishna is telling Arjuna that finding out who he is is one of the most important things he can do to be a devout follower. Like we talked about in class on Wednesday, the hindu religion believes that one is in a state of delusion or simply has forgotten that they are equal to God. In this quote, I felt like Krishna was telling Arjuna to find a teacher that will show him his true self and that he really is God and similar to himself. Also, I felt that Krishna was emphasizing that Arjuna was only confused and had just lost sight of who he was. Should he do as Krishna says, he will find that he sees a lot of Krishna in him.
Gita 4:24. "God is attained by all those who see God in every action."
This line is Krishna's way of telling Arjuna that the only way for one to truly attain the power and spiritual freedom of God is by realizing that God is all around him or her. People waste so much time going out looking and searching to find God when he is staring them in the face. God is everywhere, everything, everyday and has been forever and will always will be. Those people who are searching for God are never truly going to find him because they don't realize where he really is...everywhere! If you really want to find and see god, pause a moment and just feel his presence because he as all around you, everywhere.
Yes, nav, but how do we "attain" the God that is all around us always.
"Many times I have been born, and many times you have also. All these lives I remember, you recall only this one". The blessed lord is saying that Arjuna simply does not realize he has lived before. He simply lives time and time again. His form is just one he has selected for the time being. He can not be mistaken for this one being, because he can not be described in one way. This is, or at least appears to be, the same concept we have discussed in class.
"Whoever knows, profoundly, my divine presence on earth is not reborn
when he leaves the body, but comes to me." 4.9
when Krishna tells Arujna this, he is saying that whoever not only can see
and feel the presence of God in his avatar form, but whoever can
understand what it means to be connected to God at this
close of a level, that person will no longer have to be reborn. instead
that person gets the gift of spending eternity with God in heaven. this
shows how God wants everyone to not only love him, but to also know him
and understand him and be a part of him. God wants us to be a part of him
so much that me makes us a part of his life too.
The Blessed Lord Said: Many times I have been born, and many times you have, also. All these times I remember. You recall only this one.
In addition this is a rerminder that the lord even though in all of us is still above us. It seems as though it would be classified as a view of the Vishistaduaita Vedanta. (The idea that we are sort of with God but are clearly not God. I agree with the above post in saying that Arjuna does not realize he has lived before but is constantly reminded that he will continue to live forever just like God in him.
"Everything he does is worship and his actions melt away."
These lines are significant because they relate to the idea that by completely devoting yourself to God, you can attain freedom of the mind. If your actions are all in relation to God, you eliminate desire. Krishna explains that desire is where anger and ultimately failure come from. Therefore, by making everything worship, you can achieve stability and happiness, and after all, for many people, the purpose of religion is to find some stability.
Gita 4:23. "When a man has let go of attachments, when his mind is rooted in wisdom, everything he does is worship and his actions all melt away."
As we learn more and more, Krishna is teaching Arjuna that once you have reached wisdom your actions don't care anymore. He is saying that anything that is holding you back from being with God needs to be let go of. Then with all the obsticles out of the way and you are now devoted to God you have achieved your roots in wisdom, and everything that you do from then on is worship. Now that you have gotten to God you just need to start getting closer to him on a more personal level. This new wisdom then leaves everything behind and you forget about everything that you did before since you are now devoted to only thinking about worshiping to God.
4.11 "However men try to reach me. I reurn their love with my love; whatever path they may travel it leads to me in the end."
In this passage Krishna explains to Arjuna that his religious role in the world is very important. People worship him in every possible way and anytime of their lives. They give him love and respect to reach their goal of connecting to god in any possible way. However he always replies them with love of his own. He explains that he treats all men as his children. Krishna also points out that no matter what path men may choose in their life they will always end up with him finally. So no matter what cast you might be in you will always find a path that will lead you to Krishna, because all paths lead right there no matter what.
Gita 4.8. "Whenever righteousness falters and chaos threatens to prevail, I take on a human body and manifest myself on earth."
Krishna is saying that he comes to earth in the form o an avatar whenever the earth is going through a challenging time. He serves the earth as a protector; using his human form to reveal the good of the earth to the people in order to save the earth from turning into chaos. This passage demonstrates the loving side of Krishna. He loves his earthly people enough to come down to earth whenever they are facing troubles and save them from turning away from him. This reminds me a little of Jesus coming to earth to unveil the love of God to the people and the common belief that He will come again.
"Partaking of the essence of worship, forever they are freed of themselves; but non-worshipers cannot be happy in this world or any other." Gita 4:31
In the six lines beforehand, Krishna gives examples of how some men worship the gods; men offer wealth, knowledge, devotion or fasting. The point that Krishna concludes with in this sentence is that it doesn't matter how one worships the gods, as long as there is the element of worship. The non-worshipers however cannot be happy, "in this world or any other". What Krishna says about the many ways to worship alludes to the famous idea in Hinduism that there are a "million paths" to God or "me".
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